The wait was over and we really were heading to Northern Ireland to compete in the World Championships but before the shooting there lay a mighty journey ahead. We left home about 3pm, delayed only by Eddie's lack of a sleeping bag - later we would find that this wouldn't be the only thing he left at home.
The first leg of the journey took us north via the M6 to Carlisle and then west to Stranraer. We made good progress once beyond Manchester and the A75 to Stranraer was traffic free so we made good time. The scenery along this road was stunning and as the sun began to set we caught a glimpse of the majestic Tawny Owl. Hopefully a good omen!
Whilst waiting in the queue for the ferry Shaun received a text from home informing him of the arrival of his EV2 from Air Arms. Sods law!
The ferry left port about 11.30pm, the crossing was short and smooth and we took the opportunity to get some kip.
Thursday 21st August - Practise and Registration.
We were back on the road by 2.30am heading from Belfast further west to the city of Armagh and our campsite at Loughgall Country Park. This took only 45 minutes and soon we were attempting sleep in a side road opposite the park entrance. No surprise that we awoke at 6am, too excited to sleep we set off for Armagh. Loughgall is about 8 miles from the city so we were walking the streets in search of food by 7am. Not many people were about but we did experience our first example of Northern Ireland hospitality; we asked a chap if there was a cafe nearby and instead of telling us he showed us. This was to be repeated every time we asked for help; lovely people. With the cafe location found we had to kill time until it opened at 9am so a walk of the city centre followed. The city skyline is dominated by two cathedrals; not to be partisan we visited both. Here are Eddie and Greg in front of the Roman Catholic version, religious buildings were interesting but we were praying for food and at last we tucked in to the best Johnstone's bakery could offer.
Satisfied we decided to take a look at the shoot location which was at the Demesne Palace. The practise range was already active, we took a look but decided that the tent needed pitching and the car contents unpacked before our plinking session.
Back to Loughgall to erect our home for the next 4 days.
With that job complete it was back to Armagh for practise and registration. The plinking range was lower than the surrounding land and this lead to some interesting swirling wind. Some were experiencing lift and others drop. Confused Eddie texted for some advice!
Registration took place at 2pm. It was here that we would find out our shooting partners and which course would first test us tomorrow. Also there was chance to walk some of the courses. The event consisted of three 50 shot courses: red, white and yellow. The targets were coloured appropriately and clearly numbered so although the lanes of the different courses were interspersed there was no chance of shooting the wrong target. There were three distinct parts to the course: woodland, open field and, unusually, ornamental garden.
Registration took place at 2pm. It was here that we would find out our shooting partners and which course would first test us tomorrow. Also there was chance to walk some of the courses. The event consisted of three 50 shot courses: red, white and yellow. The targets were coloured appropriately and clearly numbered so although the lanes of the different courses were interspersed there was no chance of shooting the wrong target. There were three distinct parts to the course: woodland, open field and, unusually, ornamental garden.We would start tomorrow on different courses. Shaun on white with Karl Kawnik from Germany, Eddie on red with another German Timo Kessel and Greg on yellow with Neil Thorneycroft from Dowry Hill. We left the course and headed home via Spar where we picked up some essential victuals. It was now mid afternoon and the broken sleep and long journey had left us jaded so a snooze was in order. To help we used Phuket; a medicinal sleep inducer from Thailand and only 49p per bottle.
After a siesta we began to meet other campers. Adjacent to us were Manuel and Jose from Spain. Despite our only Spanish being "cerveza por favor" we managed to communicate thanks to their much better English, we became good friends and hope to see them again in Spain or maybe at Weston Park next year.
After a siesta we began to meet other campers. Adjacent to us were Manuel and Jose from Spain. Despite our only Spanish being "cerveza por favor" we managed to communicate thanks to their much better English, we became good friends and hope to see them again in Spain or maybe at Weston Park next year.Across the way were Dave and Paula Schofield and Bernard and Christine Rodgers. We had got to know Dave and Paula throughout the season and when he knew we were also camping Dave promised to cook us a curry. So the day ended in good company with an excellent chicken curry. Thanks Dave and Paula!
Friday 22nd August - shoot day 1
Friday 22nd August - shoot day 1Cheerios eaten, tea drunk it was time for competition and time to show the world our Bananawear.
The practise area was, as expected, already full as shooters tried to hone their skills and have a final chance of reading the wind.
Briefing was at 9.30am, it was in a quadrangle enclosed by the Palace Stables. This was our first chance to see everyone together, there were plenty of faces we knew from the GP scene and representatives from around the world: USA, South Africa, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Russia and of course Northern Ireland. As well as new faces there was new equipment on view, a few Schmidt and Bender scopes could be seen but most interest was shown to the Mach 1 rifles of the reigning champion Paul Cray and his USA team mates.
After a short safety briefing we were off. Conditions were fine and sunny but there was the swirling wind in the field to deal with and reports of difficulty in the garden area soon came along the line. Thankfully only little wind was felt in the woods but some lanes were in shadow and interesting target placement added to the challenge.As with any GP shooters that have finished are keen to find out the top scores. The quadrangle had an adjacent restaurant so after shooting competitors could chill out with a beer or a meal whilst waiting for all the news. When the scores began to be come in there were some familiar names at the top.
Day 1 scores
1. Ian Taylor 46
2. Craig McDonald 45
2. James Woodhead 45
4. Sam Monkman 44
4. Graham McKain 44 (Scotland)
4. Dave Schofield 44
And there were plenty of scores in the 40's including Paul Cray with 42. Given that the three different courses were used simultaneously the performance of the top guys could only be compared at the end of the competition in case one of the colours proved easier or harder than the others.
What of the Bananas?
Greg started on yellow and had a steady day amassing his now usual score of 31. Top score on yellow was 45 so Greg's first day = 69% (Watch out C graders this Winter League).
Eddie had the added difficulty of shooting in spring class, a discipline he has had little chance to practise, and he was a little downbeat after hitting just 7 targets on the red course.
Shaun shot white and after a poor start and dodgy middle he scored 33 (72%) compared to 40 for Karl his shooting partner.
A Magners followed by a Guinness and then fish and chips was sufficient to prepare us for a siesta; it is important that athletes rest in-between competitions. Awake again and ready to explore the night life of Armagh we met with our first disappointment; the taxi didn't show! Undeterred we set off to walk to the closest pub the Hoggs Bar. Thirty minutes later we arrived thirsty for the black stuff but disappointment 2
The Guinness was foul! After 2 pints of Tennants the bar maid came out to our table and observed the untouched beverage, offered her apology and the next round was a free one! At this time we moved from the comfort of the beer garden to the locals' domain; the bar! Once again, be it the Dander Inn Dunfermline or the Hoggs Bar Loughgall, we were made very welcome. Our Bananawear had attracted attention and we spent a happy hour talking about shooting and countless other topics. Our journey back was in the dark, all torches still in the tent, and talk was of food. So on arrival at the tent Shaun opened 3 cans of Heinz spag bol which we scoffed along with some onion rings, biscuits etc ... From out of the darkness visitors arrived; we shared a few cans and a chat with Ian and Graeme from Dowry Hill and Lyndeen from Bisley.
Saturday 23rd August - Shoot Day 2
Rain was promised and it came, accompanied with wind, about halfway through the shoot. This meant shooters that had started in the open conditions may have been advantaged as they finished their round in the cover of the woods. On the other hand the rain did offer clues as to the direction of the wind. One constant was the cold; you can't beat the British summer!
Scores Day 2
1. Ian Taylor 46 + 45 = 91
2. Dave Schofield 44 + 46 = 90
3. Andrew Gillot 42 + 47 = 89
4. Dorian Falconer 42 + 47 = 89 (Wales)
5. Craig McDonald 45 + 43 = 88
5. Sam Monkman 44 + 44 = 88
As yesterday there were plenty of 40+ scores. Paul Cray had added 41 for a total of 83 so it looked like his title was slipping away.
What of the Bananas?
Greg was delighted with his best ever score of 35 (74%), he ended the shoot wet, cold and happy.
Eddie improved his score to 10. This picture highlights his problem; his barrel kept breaking!
Shaun matched Greg's 35 but benefited from a lower top score on the yellow course to record 76%. He also got a little closer to Karl's 38.
Armagh was also host to the Ulster Rally. The Palace grounds were used as a holding ground for some of the cars. Their flashy livery and noisy engines were seen and heard regularly as was their single air horns that lead many to think a cease fire had been called.
The Bananas were not the only Millriders competing. Each day we met Mick Tromans for a chat.
Here we are in the quadrangle under the banner showing the flags of all the countries present.
The quadrangle also offered Greg a chance to get a picture of the USA team, Paul Cray is on the right.
After the now compulsory Magners, Guinness and chip shop we tried another taxi firm that promised they'd be there. Back at the campsite it was time for a cup of tea and to analyse the day gone and discuss expectations of tomorrow. All wet we welcomed a change of clothes and footwear only for Eddie to discover his spare boots were 400 miles away; trench foot beckoned!
The campsite was a football pitch, hence very flat, within a beautiful country park. We shared the location with flocks of House Martins and Swallows and Pied Wagtails were regular visitors looking for food around our tents.
Thankfully the taxi did turn up but we had already persuaded Manuel and Jose to come to Armagh and they insisted on driving and offered us a lift! We compromised, Greg went with our Spanish friends and Eddie and Shaun obliged the taxi driver. We visited the Hole in the Wall and had a great time trying to understand each other, the bar staff supplied a writing pad to help but I'm sure the Guinness helped more. It was then off to the Charlemont Hotel where we introduced Manuel and Jose to members of the English team and other shooters. Jose particularly wanted to meet Ian Taylor who was happy to have his photo taken and arranged to swap club badges; cheers Ian for making Jose's day! With our happy amigos we headed home via the chippy where we all enjoyed chips out of the bag.Sunday 24th August - shoot day 3
We awoke to good weather with a forecast for wind later. Whilst for many it would be just another shoot for those at the top it would be a tense affair. Our campsite friends Dave and Paula were both in contention and we offered our best wishes. Day 3 is different, whilst you know the colour of your course your shooting partner will be the competitor with the closest score to your own. The day remained rain free but it was windier than the previous two days yet still the scores were high. Dave Schofield and Dorian Falconer were paired together and they had a close contest with Dorian finally coming out on top and taking 2nd overall with Dave 4th. Andrew Gillot continued his good form from yesterday and finished 3rd. Top shooter, winning his 3rd World Championship, was Ian Taylor who returned a 44 for a total of 135 and a winning margin of two targets.
Top 10
1. Ian Taylor 46 + 45 + 44 = 135
2. Dorian Falconer 42 + 47 + 44 = 133 (Wales)
3. Andrew Gillot 42 + 47 + 43 = 132
4. Dave Schofield 44 + 46 + 41 = 131
5. Trevor Ryan 41 + 44 + 46 = 131
6. Craig McDonald 45 + 43 + 41 =129 (Junior World Champion)
7. James Woodhead 45 + 40 + 44 = 129
8. Andy Calpin 41 + 44 + 44 = 129
9. Terry Almond 39 + 42 + 46 = 127 (Veteran World Champion)
10. Neil Daniels 41 + 42 + 46 = 127
Paul Schofield 40 + 39 + 43 = 122 (Ladies World Champion)
Paul James 40 + 36 + 35 = 111 (Spring World Champion)
Teams
1. England
2. South Africa
3. Russia
What of the Bananas?
Greg oozed confidence but the wind bit hard and took its toll as he returned 26 (59%).
Eddie's improvement continued as he began to master the spring gun scoring 14.
Shaun partnered BFTA spring and silhouette champion Matt Hirst. He got off to a flyer but the gremlins came in the garden. However, a good performance in the open field lead him to a score of 35 (80%).
Greg 31 + 35 + 26 = 92 (68%)
Eddie 7 + 10 + 14 = 31 (23%)
Shaun 33 + 35 + 35 = 103 (76%)
This time it was a meal in the Stables restaurant and no snooze as the presentation was at 6.30pm at the Market Place Theatre in Armagh. Manuel and Jose kindly offered us a lift to the event and there was just time for a parting photo before the fun began
One of the best parts of touring is not knowing what you'll experience and who you'll meet. A highlight for the Bananas was the friendship they established with Manuel and Jose. This photo emphasises that bond!
The after shoot party was a scream. Some serious shooters could finally let their hair down and the atmosphere was superb. Teams and individuals were happy to take photos, offer safe journeys home and hope to meet again.
Shaun and Karl.
Team South Africa
Team Germany
The prizes were fantastic and on show for all to jealously admire. These are for the Spring. Ladies, Junior and Veteran.
And the main event, the silver one not the pink!
Congratulation to Ian Taylor seen here with Pete O'Hagen, the event organiser, and the Mayor of Armagh.
Congratulation to the Midlands' own Andy Gillot 3rd overall!
And well done to Paula Schofield - Ladies World Champion!
A big Banana well done to Paul Cray for a gallant defence that saw him finish on 125 and 15th overall. Paul was very approachable and a welcome addition to the Bananas should he ever move to the Midlands!
A big Banana well done to Paul Cray for a gallant defence that saw him finish on 125 and 15th overall. Paul was very approachable and a welcome addition to the Bananas should he ever move to the Midlands!
A great night finished not surprisingly in a Chinese restaurant where we met a party celebrating Craig McDonald's success. Well done Craig!
Monday 25th AugustWith no shoot pending we managed to lie in until 7am. When the tent front was opened the view was of an empty field, only yellow rectangles on the green pitch offered evidence of the fun that had occurred. We set off for Belfast and the ferry to Stranraer. The crossing took just two hours, unfortunately passengers were not allowed on deck so views of the sea were limited from this caged balcony.
However, we got some excellent views of gannets. That's the picture below not above!
And we saw the spectacular Ailsa Craig
And we saw the spectacular Ailsa Craig The M6 under rain and with plenty of traffic followed. Our journey ended at 9.30pm with 800 miles on the clock, three tired bodies thoroughly satisfied!
What a fantastic adventure. We have enjoyed our shooting and socialising, made lots of friends and learned so much about FT shooting. Many thanks to the NIFTA team and particularly to Pete O'Hagen for his organisation on the shoot days and Greg Ferson for organising free camping. The GP season has been great and these few days have been a fitting climax. South Africa is a long way but we hope that future World Championships will see a Banana entry. Well done to all who competed, helped and to those who were just so friendly. We went to Northern Ireland with pre-conceived ideas influenced by media coverage of the troubles but left in awe of a beautiful country with such friendly people.
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1 – 200 of 375 Newer› Newest»An absolutely superb report Shaun and one which i think deserves a wider audience. You must all be on quite a "high" at the moment - and understandably so. Looking forward to the emerging stories so bring on the next installments.
Excellent stuff Mr Chairman, who needs the FT Review? The BFTA site ought to have this Blog to sum up the comps!
Well, the long awaited Worlds has come & left, I can't believe that it's finished. What a three days that was, sleep was scarce what with the wind lashing the outside of the tent & Eddie & Shaun snoring away inside. A bloke needed beer just to get his head down!
The shocking irony was that both the EV2 & the HW100 were ready just that bit too late to take part. The Chairman soundly beat me with his S400 so what he could have done with his EV we'll never know.
The Yank & SA competitors suffered in the unfamiliar terrain & conditions, a wet, windy GP/WL season ended up just the preparation needed for the World Championships in NI, I'll never moan about the weather again!
Eddie & Shaun got paired up with German Shooters & got little badges as presents I got Neil Thorneycroft which was great for advise but was a little like shooting at Far Coley on a windy Sunday afternoon,I even had Mick Tromans on the lane in front, I kept on expecting Johnny Detail to walk by muttering about pellets!
The Courses were beautifully balanced pieces of difficulty, the fact that Ian Taylor dropped 15 overall is a testament to that, yet tantalisingly achievable from a range point of view.
The little gift thing was an eye opener, I do think that we should look into metal pin badges maybe with the yellow Rook with off set reticle as a motif. Anybody know where things like that might be available?
It was a very good thing that Mr Chairman took his big cylinder as the adaptors on the communal cylinders would have given us a problem, as it was we just had enough! Most of the SA, Russian & Germans seem to take their rifle cylinders off their rifles to fill them at the bottles S200 style. Something that we'll have to sort out before the next international event.
Of course the end of comp party was a great thing with plenty of the black stuff, chat & dancing, a chance for me to show off my mojo, I was in the groove!
And what is an event like that without controversy? In this case two!
Roger Moy thought he'd shot someone on the first day & the Ladies final had questionable call that marred the second place.
Drama or what!
Another truly outstanding write up Shaun - well done!
I can only reiterate what Shaun said about the friendly people, superb course and beautiful countryside, it just made the whole experience brilliant - this includes Shaun and Greg constant up beat nature.
Evening guys.
Yes Roy it was a cracking few days and I'm sure there are many more stories that I have missed.
the 100 should be ready for me to pick up - probably towards the end of the week. Tracy said it had arrived half an hour after I left the shop that Wednesday morning! Oh well the 95, in competition, was an experience but quite clearly, much more practice will be needed if i give myself a chance to contend seriously!!
Went to my local about the possibility of any dominators in stock and was told that i could have myself a daystate! I then quickly shuffled off back home thinking of when i can get myself to another shop and make enquiries about the dominator
Sounds like you all had a fantastic time, real shame the guns turned up just too late.
Where are the champs after SA?
Or are you guys planning for next year?
Did you get the club agg spreadsheet Mr C?
Greg, did you see my last post on the last blog? Whats the drama between the ladies? Was there a cat fight?
Eddie, there is a 2nd hand dominator in sporting supplies in Bloxwich.
He wants a completely unrealistic £950 for it, but I think is now at the point where he would accept a reasonable offer of say £750 ish
Shaun,what can I say although I wasn't there I feel I was. What a fantastic write up.
I was a little disappointed that there was no official site for finding out what was going on on a daily basis.
Maybe a job for you in the future?
Phil I am enjoying your spreadsheet as I type. I do like puzzles and will ponder it for a while if you don't mind. However, it looks good to me.
In most cases, if something looks strange, its because we didn't know a better way of doing it, but when you get to understand it, it does a job.
I'll tell the Russian story as Greg is probably at the gym.
On the last day Paula Schofield was shooting with Neale Marklew, in front of them was the Russian girl. Neale called a marshal to his lane because he was certain he had hit the paddle. Upon inspection the target was stiff with paint and subsequently oiled and made ready for use. The Russian girl returned to the lane and claimed that she too had hit the target so the marshal awarded her a point. Now the rule appears to be that if you leave a lane you cannot later complain about the target hence you take the zero. At the end of the round the Russian lass had tied with the girl from SA and then won the shoot-off. There was some complaint but the organisers claimed the marshals decision, though wrong, was final. So the SA girl was not happy.
No, not down the gym, though I feel like I have been. I've been hauling my gear up into the loft to clear a bit of space.
What Mr C said about, what I feel should be called The Galina/Erica incident! Was largely complete but what was missed was the needle between these three.
When we got to Loughall Paula Schofield made it plain she wasn't going to be losing to the Russian, at the end of the first day all three were tied on 40 well, you can imagine! You only really have to take a look at the score sheet to see how that competition was, so that one point was absolutely crucial. Most people were watching Ian Taylor accelerate away from the field, the Ladies comp had become tense.
What was surprising was that the SA wench was using a largely unmoded S400, & was shooting out her skin with it. The Russian, I was told was a Shooting Coach back home & coldly arrogant with it. You ask Graeme from Dowry, he actually booed her when she went up to collect her trophy!
Hi Bananas!!!! well done at the worlds fellas and look forward to seeing you soon! wish i had gone now!
Lee
Lee you made it, Eureka!
Look everyone, LeeEv2 is here. Welcome on board mate. Where's Swifty?
Anonymous said...
not a very good disguise was it?
I.m loving the story about the re-opening of the cold war. If only they realised the the significance of Shaun's presence, the nuclear S400,red telephone to the MOD, with Shaun thinking "At last this is what I've been trained for" We've got the makings of a wonderful TV comedy. Do any of you fancy writing the script?
I fancy the villian of the piece; very tasty!
EV2 now back up an running and wow it's heavy!
Was she Rosa Klebb or Tatiana Romanova? It would be just my luck to end up with the former while you lot shared the latter. If you were the James Bond, how would you cast Greg & Eddie?
Do you mean heavy after using the S400 or is it heavy for some other reason? - sorry if I'm being typically dense.
I'd see Greg in a heavy leather kacket, bald head (steel plated), goatee beard and metal teeth.
Eddie as mad scientist with a tendency for sadistic habits.
I, of course, get the girl!
Yes, it is much heavier than the 400.
This could be an entertaing discussion for tomorrow. I'm signing off now as Daughter & Boyfriend are staying with us for the week and the hectic schedule of "things which must be done", together with the excesses of food & drink are taking their toll.
I do think that we should look into metal pin badges maybe with the yellow Rook with off set reticle as a motif. Anybody know where things like that might be available?
http://www.lapelpinbadges.co.uk
minimum order 100 off @ around 80p each + £27 for die +£4 postage + vat makes 100 badges around £130.
But you're probably only going to sell 30-40 of them, making them about £4 each?
I wonder if The Bandit can get them made?
Hi Fellas! will get the hang of this soon! anyone shooting at Newbury next month?
Lee
Hi Lee,
Mr Chairman will be there as will Jonta and The Bandit from Millride.
The rest of us 'just' failed to qualify.
Sorry to hear it Phil! you will next year! see you soon pal!
You speak for yourself, I'm conserving my vital juices for the Winter League!
I personally think I'd look GREAT in a 'kacket' but I'm not sure what it is! I'd be worried about shaving my head though as I think my hat would keep falling over my eyes!
It was S*^t being at work today, I kept playing the,
'This Time Last Week' Game in my head.
Gym now so I'll be Blogging you all later.
BTW, I lost two kilos while away, so that shows me that FT is good for you & I should be able to get it free on prescription as a Diabetic!
Hi Bananas,
Lee made it now then "old people and new technology" eh!, Well guys what can I say "fantastic" report Shaun and you guys must be chuffed with you scores (someone stand on Gregs rifle please) joke!. Wish I had gone so much now after reading the blog. Going back to bed to watch the mighty Reds now (me not to good) looking forward to Euros and come on lads lets camp as it sounds like you had a great time camping.
See you soon Steve.
I think the Euros are now fully booked, so unless you're already in then you won't get a place.
Is anyone going to the Masters?
I'm game.
So, I get that you are allocated to a random team of 10, do you shoot with a random person?
How do they level out the teams so yoy don't end up with a team of 10 AA's?
BTW, I lost two kilos while away, so that shows me that FT is good for you
Thats a p**s poor effort.
4 days of guinness & chips and you lose 2 kilos.
You leave Greg alone, he's my hero. Trouble is, I can't remember why. Anyway, you'd better watch what you say about him now he's an international superstar with friends in high places. Putin & Smersh have been mentioned - nudge nudge.
Competitors shall be timed 2 targets=3mins, 3 targets=4 minutes, etc. Time commences when
you sit down and address the target or when you address the target for standing or kneeling
shots. Range finding, loading of rifle, checking of the wind are all part of the timing process.
Were these rules followed at the worlds?
Did it make shooting more difficult?
Cheeky git swifty!! I aint too good on a pc granted! but you struggle with simple things like hitting targets!!!lol. now get back to bed n nurse ya balls! lol
Speak soon pal!
Evening all!
Another failed bet on the "mighty Red".
Phil there were only 2 targets per lane and, surprisingly, the stop watches were ace. Yes the lanes were timed but it was most unusual to here of people going anywhere near 3 minutes.
Mr C.
Now you've shot the 400 and the EV in competition, do you think you'd have done better at the worlds with the EV?
How many more points do you think you would have got? Any or none?
I'm interested to see if you think you would have faired better.
I think the EV is superior from the seated position and the 400 better for the disciplines. The mistakes I made were only down to me so I think that my scores would have been similar. What I learned in NI was about my head. I think I'm now better prepared to achieve a round of 40. I hope!
Gone!
Phil you asked where will the World's be held in future years. This order has been suggested but I'm not sure it has been ratified.
South Africa
Norway
Germany
Austria
Belgium
Greece
Hungary
Italy
Lithuania
Malta
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Russia
Scotland
Spain
Wales
England
Poland
USA
Northern Ireland
So am i correct in saying that the worlds aint gonna be in this country again for 15 years??????
oh crap!
No.
The country top of the list is offered the event if they do not want it the next country is offered etc ...
I saw that list, it was a "spit the dummy" proposal from the SA rep due to them not getting it in 2008.
Maybe them getting it in 2009 has placated them.
As most of those countries couldn't manage 1 shooter at this years competition, I guess there is little chance they would want it anyway.
I guess there is no actual plan after 2009. We need to ask Roger.
Who did he nearly shoot by the way?
And what did you learn about your head?
Hello everyone.
Well Phil, The question of just what was meant by 'addressing' the target was the talk of the quadrangle before kick off on day one.
Roger Moy was a little concerned & a number of English competitors had clearly gone to him with this. (Why it should come up this late when the rules had been up for months, I'm not sure) Peter O'Hagen at the first brief defined 'addressing' as 'Bum to Bag' or 'Knee to Bag'. Andy Gillott asked about standers but I really can't remember what specifically was said to that.
The worry was, what ever you worked out with your partner for the first two days would be different to your new partners experience for the third.
Certainly Lyndeen Calvert seemed to think she was getting an early clock from her partner, from what she told us. She also said a couple of Brit shooters were just using regular GP rules as they were shooting together.
Me & Neil rarely used more than a minute & a half but some evidently milked it!
I had a clock failure on the second day & a replacement had to be sent for, but generally 3 minutes was a luxuriantly long period to knock a couple of targets down.
The Moy incident!
We heard early on, on day one that a jogger had somehow got on to the Course after shooting had commenced. By the evening that had changed to a Placard wielding protester trying to get the event stopped.
From what we were told Roger had loosed one off as this pillock ran by, he put his hands to his head & fell over! Roger called a cease fire & went to check the t^@t out, he wasn't hurt & with much apologising from Roger he went on his way.
As you can imagine, Roger was very unsettled by this & missed the next few targets.
After I finished on the last day I got chatting with a couple of Marshals about it. They said he was the local t*$$er, but he had rang the Police complaining we were shooting at him & inquiring where the rifles were being kept!
This was a tricky one as they were supposed to have been locked up at the Palace & it makes me think he knew exactly what to ask!
Blimey, it woz all goo wore it?
Sorry, went to the Black Country museum Monday and I slip into the old vernacular on occasion ever since.
So Greg, are we doing the Masters, next Saturday I believe?
I think Shaun is only going to the Showdown, but us mere mortals need open events to get a shoot.
By the way, I believe this Sunday is the last shoot at Far Coley before WL1, so we'll be trotting off over there I presume?
Its Cross Guns too this Sunday. Decisions, decisions...
Is TBE all PCP'd up now?
I don't mind hanging around for a start so, yes to the Masters. We need to discuss times & so on.
I was just thinking Far Coley but I haven't visited Xguns yet, so I don't mind.
I need to find somewhere with exposed targets to get some practise without tree cover, anyone know of anywhere suitable?
That first statement made perfect sense to me, I must be spending too much time over the border!
He was going to collect it today I believe, so should be his usual lethally accurate self by Saturday.
Unless he's bought a Dominator!
Going to walk up & down a hill for a bit now, blog you all later.
It seems I am now the proud owner of a Relum Taurus.
Its a basket case, but if anyone fancies messing with an old .22 boinger, let me know.
Free to good home.
If no interest, I'll give it to Clompy to play with.
I need to find somewhere with exposed targets to get some practise without tree cover, anyone know of anywhere suitable?
Sywell???
Hi all,
just a fleeting visit.
Roy I have a torx driver that should fit your s400.I'll sort it out for you.
Evening all!
Paul are you shooting Saturday? Uncle Shaun has a small gift to tempt you with!
Mr C,
I thought the conditions of your bail prevented you from making such offers?
steady, I do my community service 5 days a week, except holidays of course!
So Saddler Masters Champion this year?
I'm back.
Has everyone gone to bed?
Looks like you've upset Ivan.
Hope your life insurance is up to date. Does it cover polonium poisoning?
They'll send Galina after him, it'll be the wicker chair & the carpet beater!
I'll depend on my Kacket backed warriors!
Paul, Thanks for the offer but I've already got a torx driver - and I'm having hours of pleasure with it.
He seems the type to rather enjoy the wicker chair and carpet beater.
Roy, are you going to need a FAC for this thing now?
Will we need earplugs when you fire it?
Phil, I've had so much fun finding my "sweet spot", wife wants me to look for hers now. I may need technical advice.
See if you can get a post code & go on google maps!
Hi all, won't be at Millride tomorrow,I've still got this stupid chest infection.
Make the most of the weather tomorrow it looks ok.
Shoot well and have fun. See you soon.
I may need technical advice.
Well, for a start, you're gonna need more than a torx driver.
Well, for a start, you're gonna need more than a torx driver.
I've bought it now so I'm Bl---y well gonna use it
Hey Bananas, Jose has got one of his muckers to post on the AGF. He's posted the address to the Basque FT website(no obvious jokes please!)
http://fieldtargeteuskadi.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
If you can find the Gallery it's quite illuminating about the terrain & conditions.
Hi folks,
How are you all well I hope?.
Shaun how is the EV2?,and Greg "THE NEW BANDIT" you stil knocking them all over.
Well "she" the "boss" has given in to my sulking,moaning acting like a brat and brought me the Butt hook I wanted (what a darling)(no catch she said!) but I am on my guard just incase. Now I better improve my scores or I will just have to tell her a couple of "porkie pies". Oh well off to the garage to try and set it up (should be fun)putting on some riser blocks too?.
All the best gents see you soon, Steve.
Greg,
I've e-mailed Tony Cook, I'll let you know what he says
Hi Swifty, EV debut today proved ok but I'm still wary of it doing something odd.
Sounds like you will be ready for the Winter League! Are you doning the Castle 80 (V good) on Sunday 14th Sept?
Hi Guys, how was it today? high scores I hope!
Shaun,
Yes will be shooting Castle 80 all been well,better get sorting pellets now! will need at least 100 of them special ones?. Hook is now in place and riser blocks are on, head position feels much better no leaning into it and rifle sits better now no "cant", just need to re-zero and get new markings sorted?.
Off to dog show Sunday so no shooting for me, gutted want to try out new rig.
ATB Steve.
Reply from Tony Cook:
Will squad teams as normal and feed a few just Masters in with squads, can't say a time as not sure how many will be coming to shoot Masters
Last booking in is normally about 11-30
Cheers
Tony
So Greg, I'm thinking we treat it like an afternoon GP.
Leave yours at 9.15ish, should get there 10.30-10.45 and should get to shoot about 12-1pm
How's that sound?
You'll need to send me your address.
I hear Brum is a bit rough, will my wheels be OK?
Hi all.
A bit tardy tonight as I've been giving Trudy some TLC.
Phil, that sounds good mate. No E-mail still so I'll PM them to you.
Far Coley tomorrow?
Pilsbury, scores not so great, TBE retired with technical issues.
I put in a poor 18/240 & the Chairman 22/260.
Alan came back with a 6/170. I believe top score was Jonny Detail with a dropped 2. Get well soon mucker we need you & the Chairman has a pressie for you, Ohhhh!
Swifty, no mate, not quite Bandit material yet. Very interested in your Butt findings, might be on the verge myself. Likewise the risers!
OK, no Far Coley for me tomorrow as I'll be brownie point collecting for next Saturday.
Far Coley.
Got there, no wind, not a breath.....
Couldn't quite believe it so convincing myself there was left to right drift, I thought I'd give edge of kill.....Plink!
Everything made of glass started to mist & fog then some wind did show up....with the rain!
I don't know what the top score was but Kev was there & dropped 3, Dave Harrison was there so there must have been a clearance or damn near. I got 15, Mr 50% again!
I'm going to have a harsh word with myself as WL1 is coming up imminently! There can be only B Grade results, no lower!
I PM'd Dave Schofield about the fill adapters for the communal cylinders at the Worlds. He said several were caught out & had to borrow his adapter to get a fill.
Apparently, according to Neale Marklew at FC, I need a DIN adapter with a bleed nipple/guage for my fill hose to screw into, about £40 he says.
A big Nikko on the BBS for £350.
Hi Greg,
let me express my envy at your FC experience.
Sipping a Stella whilst cooking the tea.
Jesus has PM'd me, not from heaven but from Spain. Let's hope we can keep the comms up and help european relationships flourish.
And Fred Stanbridge selling a 45-45 leup comp for £575.
Oooh, sell it quick, please.
Or my fingers might make a decision my bank balance wont welcome.
An "A clamp" for sale Greg, as you mentioned for your bottle.
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305843
An "A clamp" for sale Greg, as you mentioned for your bottle.
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305843
An 'A Clamp' that's what I must ask for is it?
I must say looking at the different versions on the MDC site, I was a bit confused.
just knicked the wings off the chicken!
cooking does have its advantages.
I nearly bought that then. The ones on the MDC site were coming in around £50 so that isn't much of a saving with the P&P on top, especially if it turns out to be the wrong one!
Other bits of the Chicken that are fair game while cooking;
The Parson's nose, The Oysters, The greasy bits on the underside over the ribs. No one misses them & they're great!
Tut tut, chicken skin, full of fat, throw it away.
Only breast and leg for me.
But that's another subject.
There's a MK1 EV in a Paul Wilson stock now for £725!
Where's TBE?
They're both Fred Stanbridge's.
Looking at the posts from Jonta, it looks like Fred's lad has packed in shooting.
and a Dommie, come on Ed jump in the water's lovely
Is this, in your opinion Arby slumming it at the Wedge chaps?
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc267/Baltipal/sta60017wp0.jpg
Yes, I'd recognise that hamster anywhere.
Don't call Arby a Hamster, you'll be shooting with him in the upcoming WL, you won't want to upset him!
You catch Clompy's post on the BBS about a Gun Shop siliconing a Springer into it's stock, I wonder if it's SFS?
Trudy has been taken out of her stock, sprayed & wiped again this weekend. If it keeps on raining like this I won't bother putting the screws back in next time!
Phil, Jesus (of Euskadi not Nazareth!) has asked if it would be possible to include the site link to the Euskadi FT Association in the Millride site as a link. What do you think?
If so it's;
http://www.fieldtargeteuskadi.org
No probs.
I'm on the laptop at the mo.
I'll do it tomorrow when I'm on the desktop.
Yes, you caught me out in my quest for world domination. I've set myself the target of being World Champion this time next year and then taking up cake decoration instead. All was going well until another (obviously less photogenic) Millrider and contributer to this blog put me in my place by virtually clearing the course standing.
Anyway, I'm a bit concerned that 2 of you can instantly recognise another bloke from his rear end and the small furry thing that he's gripping with such ardour.
who was that then Roy?
Id rather not say ,Phil, in case he comes after me for the "photogenic" comment, but his initials are JC. Having had one Jesus mentioned tonight I have to say that I don't think it's a second coming. (I hope that that's not another excuse for smutty comments from you & Greg)
I'd say Clompy but he would normally lie down to shoot.
Jonny Detail wasn't at FC today but I don't see him going to the Wedge & I know it wasn't me.......it wasn't me was it?????
DOH! Too slow.
Jonta at the Wedge when he said he couldn't possibly shoot on a Sunday!
Go on Roy, did he get the super-reducer standing?
Sorry Greg, I can't answer that until I know how much he'll pay me to say he did. Seriously though, I don't know as I wasn't shooting with him - I just kept a deferential distance and tried to absorb his skill by osmosis.If I could have just 10% of his skill I'd let him borrow my hamster.
Evening Bloggers.
Dave has rung me to say he has ordered 50 Club Pin Badges & they should be priced at the Princely sum of £1.50p.
Kilty has done a little tribute to his lad Craig on the BFTA site Homepage, can't blame him for being proud of him, I only said to someone while in NI that he must be.
I was kind of expecting some kind of a write up somewhere before now. It does look like The Chocalate Banana Blog not only is the best report of events,the fastest report of events but the ONLY report of events! We should go International with this.
........And I take the 100th comment again!
Totally agree with you Greg about the report deserving a wider audience. If you recall I said exactly that as soon as the report had been published
Right O, see you soon Arby, I'm off down the gym. (This physique needs work to look like this you know!)
Evening bloggers,
I shall have a few of those badges please.
I too have started the fitness regime today, I have only eaten enough for 1 1/2 rather than my normal two people portions.
Evening all,
Greg put me down for a badge please.
Paulo!
how's the chest?
Not to bad thanks, still got a stupid cough though!
Evening all.... Phil pellet sizer is in gun case ready for you to try saturday m8...
Mr C will it me you and bandit getting in the practice in saturday ready for sunday. Will we shooting the coarse normally then go on the clock, or shall we just go for it...
As Daz suggested we can't do the course first because we will no the distances, so it's straight in to showdown speed. I'll bring a stopwatch!
What time will you be there then Mr C..
Have seen Ian tonight and he as told me about the badges which he seems very excited about...
Saturday and sunday I will be using the new combo
I have a football match and hope to be there by 1pm.
Hi everyone, I'm back.
I must be getting fitter, I've started noticing the wenches down there now!
Hi octane training from the Millride A Team I see.
include the site link to the Euskadi FT Association in the Millride site as a link
Done.
Phil pellet sizer is in gun case
Thanks Jonta.
No e-mails yet from UK or US regarding guide column. :(
What image have the shop used for the die master? Dave was going to take his Millride hoody with him.
If we knew the shop name, we could get Bandit to e-mail them a jpeg or a tiff?
I see Jonta & the Chairman casting a crafty butchers at the Schmidt & Bender thread on the AGF.
Where abouts is the Euskadi FT link Phil, can't seem to see it?
On the "Downloads & Links" page, under "Associations".
If you can't see it, it's because your browser is loading the page from cache.
Either clear your cache or hold down the control button when you click on the reload or refresh icon and it will reload the page from the web, not from your cache.
Cheers Phil, I've got it now.
Euskadi logo now added to links page.
Jonta, inbound pm re: guide column.
BTW, no need for the sizer this week, I'm orf to Newbury Saturday with my homie Gregory to bring back some silverware.
Evening bloggers!
Anybody recieving?
always.
Infact I'm starting to think I'm addicted to the net...
Sorry receiving, i before e except after c, no grammar school for me!
Just hitting the weights blog you all later
just eating a nice slice of seed sensations nutty bread after a quick 14 miles on the bicycle
I'm here fellow Bloggers. Just back from the Magic Ministrations of the strong fingered, Titian Locked Ann.
Save me from the red haired women!
What's new then, all's a go for Saturday then Phil?
Oooohhhh, Yes.
Hopefully, I should have my super dooper extended hampster posts. Then you can look out.
Can we not tempt anyone else to join us?
Appears not mate, what's Arby doing Saturday?
Evening bloggers.. Phil you have pm on the way. Will keep the sizer in my box till the next time I see you.
Leave some silverware for us sunday shooters..
Ah, when I said we'd be coming back with some silverware, I meant we'd be nicking the spoons from the burger van.
That will still be more than I can probably manage Phil...
What's an RDF lads?
In what context Greg
I'm conversing with Robf on the AGF about going to Spain with my PT.
Apparently you only need proof of ownership as anything below 18fpe isn't considered a Firearm but you do need a 'Ownership Card'.
Here's where a Licence might come in handy!
Rob said he'd use a note from his RDF, I'm assuming something to do with his FAC.
RFD
Registered Firearm Dealer
RFD = Registered Firearms Dealer
And Saddler wins by 1/1000th of a second!
We don't want licenses.
When we've tried licenses and it doesn't stop numpties leaving loaded guns near their children while they answer their mobile, the government will know exactly where all the lagally held guns are to take them off you.
If we have licenses for airguns, we should have licenses for knives, baseball bats, golf clubs, pool cues, cricket balls...
Oooh, Debate!
I understand your point but this particular issue would certainly be made easier if all I had to do was flash my totally official, EU recognised Licence at the Carabaneri at the border & stroll across.
As it is, I'm scratching my head!
Well, as you said you saw our mate Rog on the photos from Espana, he'll tell you what you need to get your weapon into the country without the rubber glove routine.
That had occurred to me but I'm willing to bet he has a FAC in the same way Robf has, so he'd have used that I should imagine.
He was looking at that post briefly but had disappeared before I could PM him.
Problem looks solved now, Jesus came to the rescue & will be sending adapted slips out with descriptions & such, all the box's ticked to satisfy the official mind.
Ah, Jesus saves.
And on that note.....
Good Night Bloggers.
God bless!
Greg and Phil, I really would love to join you on Sat but Father In Law not so good at moment and I may need to stay local. If it doesn't inconvenience you too much can I make a final decision as late as Friday? If that's a problem I'll understand perfectly;let me know if it is.
Phil, Didn't pick up your message until this pm, so I'm sorry for not replying sooner.
Results for the Worlds are up lads.
97th!!!!!!!!
Oh well, you watch me in Norway, I'll make top 50 by then.
No probs for me Arby, I hope he feels better soon mucker.
OK by me.
WOHOOOOO! I did myself out of a place, I'm 96th!
So are you going for top 49 in Norway now?
See this Greg:
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306616
Yes Phil I did. More about type 1 than type 2 though. I didn't always have this thing, I managed to cause it myself by not looking after myself despite many warnings.
If they can cure type 1 infant onset diabetes then that would be a great day indeed, they got lumbered through no fault of their own & are far more reliant on insulin than I am.
Like the video said, if our kids here in the west have it rough what about youngsters in the 3rd world?
Here's hoping!
Anyone use Google Earth?
The Winter League page, as well as having google online maps for all the venues, now has Google Earth .kmz files too!
Now there really is no excuse if you get lost.
Evening bloggers!
buenas tardes Gregory, ha mejorado tu espanol?
bueno, nada, buenas noches
Back from the sweaty place to find Mr Chairman having a small Spanish style breakdown, Hasta La vista Baby!
Slow night then?
Evening Bloggers.
Who's here tonight then?
Hola Gregory!
Como estas, Senor Chairman?
I see there's a new pellet on the horizon from Daystate, now I've got 30 tins of mozzies!
Doing fine this end. Can't say I'm too happy about the weekend's weather. That hill at Newbury can get a bit muddy.
Bicycle chain round your boots & jobs a good 'un!
Taking the S400, just in case?
£18 for 650?
Individually weighed, & wrapped on the thighs of young virgins?
Well, there's a bloke on the AGF who appears to have something to do with production as he made a point of saying Tony Belas instructed them to turn the production speed down.
He seemed to price them at around £6.50 a tin, how many is in a tin of Daystates I don't know, the Selects were 400 weren't they? But six & a half quid to eighteen seems a bit of an hike to me!
He was saying the cost of making the pellets was £6.50. You've got to add on cost of lead, then logistics costs, then middleman costs etc.
Even so, in no way can they justify £18 for 650.
Watch the cost of other 'performance' pellets rise to match them, while Eley Wasp will still be £3 a tin.
Anyone know the date for next years NEFTA Classic? Jesus has PM'd (hard to type that with a straight face!) me & seems very keen.
I would have thought he'd know stuff like that.
Can;t he just ask Dad?
Hello again, the Classic is on the weekend that precedes the Mayday bank holiday. That makes it the 2nd and 3rd of May, I think!
For confirmation PM Trev Ryan
Cheers mate
Mr C, have you ever thought of free floating your EV2 barrel?
Hi Phil, not given it any thought as yet. I'm loathed to modify anything in case it has to return to AA.
Theres a thread raging on AGF with Jon Detail pretty vocal in favour.
Not necessarily EV2s, just guns in general.
The advantage of a free floating barrel is in the lack of contraction/expansion effect from the barrel band, yes?
Evening... Mr C What time doe`s the showdown start on this wet sunday morning...
Good question John, I was hoping a thread might start on the AGF. However, I shall do a search about last year's event.
I to had a look on the AGF.. Surprised nothing had been mentioned especially by Holly
asked the question on the AGF.
Thought Holly would take the bait..
Holly bit!
Starts 9 o`clock... Rain starts 9.05.... waterproofs wil be the order of the day.... saturday looks the same as well.
Well, you can't say you're not used to it can you?
True but it takes the edge off the shoot.
Later....
Nighty-night Bloggers.
Hi Chaps - Posting early because I may not be able to get on tonight.
Phil and Greg, you'd better count me out of tomorrow's excursion because I may be needed here, although being local, I may be able to get to M/ride.
Have a good day, - will look forward to reading the reports from you and the Sunday guys.
Well Gregory, I'm still happy to go tomorrow, but I can't say I'm looking forward to it much.
Looks like it's going to be a bit of a trial.
Gents,
Good luck to you chaps shooting the Masters,make sure you have got the waterproofs packed and the boots with plenty of grip. (could be a bit muddy under foot). Anyone got a stash of JSB 4.52 they may like to sell?. Wish I could shoot but doctors orders no can do, need to be ok for Euros as thats the one I will win! lol.
Greg, Sorry no info yet ref butt hook and riser blocks not been able to try them, but even holding rifle it feels like a new one (hope not made mistake changing settings time will tell?).
Good luck to the boys shooting Sunday and make sure MFTA are top dogs.
ATB Steve.
Hi all,good luck for the weekend boys shoot well.
I hope to be back ready for next weekend at Castle,If I can shake off this bloody chest infection.
Anyway all the best, see you soon.
Evening all!
I await confirmation that Newbury will actually happen as that grassy bank can be unkind to cars even when dry.
Good luck Greg and Phil!
So where is the best/safest place to park?
I'd rather park a way away and walk than get stuck in the mud.
me too.
As I recall there is a track that leads to the field. I cannot recall if there are inlets to park along the track. I think I will park on the main road (country lane) in a layby and carry my gear in my flexible bag. At least I can read your experiences before I go!!
so, if we park on the main road, how far is the walk along 'the track' and across 'the slope'
Can't be sure where you would park but from the road up to the shoot is no more than 15 minutes. Of course getting some more air could be troublesome!
I might park on the road when we get there and walk along the track to see what the lie of the land is. Can always move the car up if its not too muddy in the field.
Sounds like a plan. Good luck.
Buenos noches mi amigo
So what happened Phil!
Trust that you are ok?
Hi,
I'm fine, just bloomin annoyed. I'm sure Greg has filled you in?
On the way home, I stopped to collect my bits and pieces, and there were at least 2 other lots of damaged parts & broken glass at exactly the same spot. Thats why I thought I'd done more damage than I have, I saw all the other glass and broken plastic and thought I 'd made a right mess of it.
I think there may have been some diesel or something on the road.
I was only doing 15-20mph and the back spun round with no warning at all.
Been to the car docs by me, £200 to replace the broken trim bits, rub down the scratches in the bumper and respray.
I need to get a couple of plastic bits that fit under the bumper, but overall not too much damage I guess.
Would cost a lot more if I put it through the insurance, but its not worth it.
Glad everything is alright mate.
I put in another poor effort today, I think something has shifted slightly since I had her out of the stock.
Very little wind today, so thought I was on for a good one. I dropped 3 in the first 10 then 1 more then I started knocking them over, great!
All of a sudden I couldn't hit anything, I'm talking 40 yard Rabbits with no wind on them. I found that I had to aim outside the KZ to the left to hit anything!
Jonta had a go & agreed the windage had shifted, so it's off to the Wedge tomoz to check the clicks on the Plinking range.
Since I've got back from NI I haven't put in a decent score, I might be in C another season at this rate!
Glad you're okay. It is annoying when the car gets damaged. Last month I had to kneel on the car to undo the roof box, low and behold two big knee dents!
I'm off to Bicester now for a few beers in prep for tomorrow. Today I shot like a numpty.
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